This artist wants to take nude photos of me and paint them. I've seen his work.
He wants to do about 4 hours. Any idea of how much would be appropriate to charge?
This artist wants to take nude photos of me and paint them. I've seen his work.
He wants to do about 4 hours. Any idea of how much would be appropriate to charge?
Have you tried looking up other models' rates on modelling sites to get a feel for the industry standard? That's the first place I'd look.
Depends on a lot of things. Do you get copies to use for your portfolio? Do you get to make money off the pics as well if you wish to? Do you have any experience?
All that matters and alters the price.
Essentially I would get copies of the pics if I wanted them - but the major factor, I think, is that he has always done his wife and her friends essentially for free up to this point, so I'm his first foray into paid work.
If you are new and you are getting copies...I'd charge about $150-$200 for the session. Usually for nude I'd say @100-$200 an hour, but thats without copies and for someone who is experiemced enough to charge that much.
For nudes, my rates were $125-$150 per hour, 4 hour minimum. I built up to that price tho....when I started, my rates were much lower, and with each shoot, more experience, and more pics in my port, I slowly increased my price....
People would ask what I charged, and when I gave them a quote, and they said oh wow, I'd think you would charge much more....I knew it was time to up my price.
I think what Cam said was good, if your new and it's your first time.
Never negotiate price based on whether you are getting copies of pix. In fact, a reputable private fotog is always going to give you copies. Only company-run shoots don't usually give copies of the shoot.
You just have to gauge what you can ask, based on your look and experience. If you're unsure, or you shoot w a major company, ask what they are offering before agreeing to a price. I charge per hour 150 lingerie/bikini, 175 topless/implied, 200 nude/implied/artistic. That's negotiable based on certain factors. I shot free for a fotog I really wanted to work with but who never pays models (because they flock to him).
oh, and if shooting for private fotog, make him sign something allowing you to hold the copyright to all photos, and restricting him from using them for anything without your written consent.
^^ It would be damn near impossible to ever find work if a photog was PAYING for a model who said I will own the copyrights, and I restrict you from using the photos without my preapproval. I mean..WTF did he pay for? The simple pleasure of being allowed to shoot with her?
Maybe if you were a super model you could make such demands...but a photographer wouldn't put up with that.
He is paying you. He owns the copyrights. You work for free, joint copyrights. You pay him, you own them. That's just how it works.
And a reputable photog will not alwyas give you a copy of the prints, and you can indeed negotiate your price depending on if you get prints. A copy of the prints is a form of payment for the shoot. That is what Time for print means. You work for free, in exchange for a copy of your prints. If you are being paid, that is your compensation, and the photographer is under no obligation to give you prints as well.....although most of them are nice enough to give you a few anyway.
^^Yep..what Kaylinn said
If I were a painter and wanted to take photos of a model for painting, I'd put up a note in the local college art department and pay probably $15-25/hour.
Because I mix things up and am focused on mostly art photography, for my own stuff, I'd be looking at anywhere from free ("trade") to $50/hour. I wouldn't pay more than that because I don't have to.
Not to say that Kaylinn and Cameron and others aren't worth a lot more for their work. They certainly are. But when you're talking about art-based work, it's a different scenario. I mean, if you can get $100/hour for photos for use in a paint project, great, but it's not the same market as in the commercial/glamour world.
What I'm adding is hearsay, and not direct experience. But I seem to recall hearing (back in the early 90's I think) of a class of some local artists pooling together a few dollars each to pay for college coedsto model for them (life drawing and painting). I don't remember the amount, but the model didn't walk away with hundreds of dollars for an hour or two, more like dozens. But for an 18-22 year old, it was better than minimum wage, and sometimes she'd get a drawing to boot. I'm guessing that a painter would work better from a few photos
(taken by him or someone else shouldn't matter) as long as the poses were right. It saves everyone a long tedious sitting (which was from the pre-photo era anyway). But that shouldn't take more than an hour, it's the painting or drawing that is more time consuming.
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agreed completely. i'm an art student and i draw/paint naked people all the time. they are paid 15 bucks an hour by the school. when a photographer wants to take pictures of a specific type of model they usually post on the bulletin boards around school and typically pay around 20 an hour (just like you said).
there are plenty of willing students who need extra cash.
Ok..I change my advice to Jay Zeno's. I missed that this was for an art project...
I haven't done full nude but I have done topless/boyshorts and an intro/tease to join video for the website.
It was a 3 hour shoot and I got paid $500
I think that is fair, right?
The photog paid for the room also, and I stayed in it and worked for the night, LOL.
The best way to approach this is to find out exactly what the artist plans on doing with the finished product. Will it be used for his portfolio? Will it be given to you for yours? Is it for any form of commercial use? Is it strictly for private use and/or practice? There are lots of variables in how to go about doing this. If you are not as experienced, I don't feel that you would be able to get away by asking for compensation based upon what a professional would get. If you are new to things, sometimes the best way to start is to start off cheap and build up from there as you gain experience, just as Kaylinn has mentioned.
Personally, I have been approached to do a couple very minor shoots but as it stands I am mainly a landscape photographer with little experience shooting portrait style work. The only experience I have had so far in terms of shooting people is with skateboarders at some of the local skate parks. I have graciously turned down weddings and some other offers just for the sake of my own sanity and hesitation to make mistakes. I know that I will have to get my feet wet if I plan on expanding my horizons and would only be comfortable doing the work as a direct trade for the pictures in usable format on CD for the model and I to use for portfolio expansion. When things start to progress then monetary compensation can be negotiated. I am also not actively pursuing models right now because most of them expect to be paid, even if they are horribly inexperienced. As it stands, I only expect to trade for portfolio expansion and I can't really say I am too dissatisfied with that as some have been starting to seek me out. I have a consultation with a local dancer to see what we can come up with and it sounds like she wants to pay me for my time, even though I don't plan on asking for much. It's definitely a start.
With that said, I know that I personally would have to start out small and work my way up from there. While I have some amazing landscape work under my belt, there are other areas to explore where I can't make demands on what I feel I would be entitled to due to lack of experience and I know that everyone has to start somewhere. Take that into consideration, negotiate with the artist, and if you are unable to reach an agreement then so be it. Something else will come along. Just don't sell yourself short for the sake of doing it if there is the possibility that nothing more may come from it. If you plan on doing this as a career you need to make career influenced decisions.![]()
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