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    You know those girls who always seem to nab that guy who spends a fortune??
    There is a girl at my club (im good friends with her btw) who, if there is a good spender, she will find him and get all his money. She does it every time.

    Is it luck and timing? Or is it her skill? She hustles pretty hard but some nnights it just seems to be luck, even she says so. she said she doesnt know they will be a big spender when she hustles them.
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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    i think its a combination of the 3. sometimes its one, sometimes the other.

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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    I think its mostly skill. Some girls just know what to say to get the guy to spend big bucks. Thats not me, but at least I'm good at getting almost every guy to spend 20-100!!!!

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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    yeah, but it takes luck and timing to get him. my biggest spender, i almost didnt go over and talk to because i thought he looked like he wouldnt spend any money. luckily i did, but if another girl had gotten there first she very well might have gotten that money. same goes for when im sitting there thinking hmm i should go talk to him and i see another girl go over and then she makes bank. timing can play a big part.

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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    ^Yeah, it's a combo of all. Even the best hustlers won't make shit if they hit the guy(s) at the wrong time or whatever.

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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    Ive noticed that it tends to be the same girls who get the big spenders, and it happens to the same girls far too often to just be luck.

    Its not always a good thing, lots of those girls are bullshit artists, and thats how they get so many custys to spend so much. They are the ones who lie and say that x will happen if he spends more, or they make up a phony emergency and get a sucker to pony up. If thats what it takes, count me out.

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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    No, it's definitely not just luck. First you have to be lucky enough to happen upon one who has the money and inclination to spend it, at the right time (or at least not at the wrong time). Then you have to have the skill to get and keep him spending.

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    Luck is definitely a factor, but skill comes into play once you've already got him in the lap room. Almost anyone can sell one dance, but you make money when the guys completely forget themselves and want you to keep going and going and going. THAT takes skill.

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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    None of the above.

    Personality.


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    hook ups with the managers/door guys have helped me many a night too.... like being pointed out to a guy who just bought bottles or funny money, in large quantities.

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    Luck is definitely a factor, but skill comes into play once you've already got him in the lap room. Almost anyone can sell one dance, but you make money when the guys completely forget themselves and want you to keep going and going and going. THAT takes skill.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    same goes for when im sitting there thinking hmm i should go talk to him and i see another girl go over and then she makes bank. timing can play a big part.
    Yup, that kept happening to me last night. I was sitting with duds, thinking "oh I should go talk to that guy" then bam, soon as another girl would, she'd get the dances.

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    Luck def has a lot to do with finding the guy...since you could be the best hustler in the world..if you never talk to him, you'll never get him.

    But once you're there and you've found him...its all in the hustle and your personality that KEEPS him spending.

    You have to be able to be a chameleon. Be sweet to the guys who want that, be a bitch to the guys who want THAT...etc..etc...thats where the skill comes in. If you know how to read guys and can adjust accordingly....you have better odds.

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    If it's the same girl all the time, then it's obviously more than luck. A good saleswoman will hustle every guy, whether he is giving big spender signs or not. A guy could only make 25k a year, but if you lay it on thick and make him feel like a million dollars, he could drop a grand on you. I've seen the best saleswomen get guys who look like they're 21 and broke to drop at least 500 and I was thinking, there's no way that kid has any money, I'll be lucky to get 75 dollars out of him. I think it's all about salesmanship, convincing the customer you really like them, etc. Basic hustling.

    Yes, and working the room. Making contact with as many customers as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    None of the above.

    Personality.
    I somewhat agree, but luck definately does come into play. You still have to be lucky enough to sit with the guys who have money and want to spend it. There is also a certain amount of skill involved with picking the right customers, but sometimes you simply get lucky.

    Personality DOES keep them spending though, that's for sure! I get more compliments about my personality than anything else. I'm not really all that special, I just try to give genuine smiles and make a joke now and then. The sexiest dance in the world gets boring after awhile, a hard sell can really hurt future sales, but charm, charm will keep them around forever....or at least until they start asking you out.

    Best thing you can possibly keep in mind while trying to entertain a big spender: What can I do to make him have a really great time? Focus on HIS enjoyment and he'll open his wallet to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    None of the above.

    Personality.

    I think personality IS part of the skill.
    Having the skill to know what kind of personality this guy likes and delivering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    hook ups with the managers/door guys have helped me many a night too.... like being pointed out to a guy who just bought bottles or funny money, in large quantities.
    i can't emphasize this factor enough. i noticed a guy (who had previously gotten a dance with me) buying funny money and i asked the manager who handled the transaction just how many dollars in funny money he purchased. $200. i made up my mind to get that $200 to be spent on me. and i did. then i tipped the manager. watch who is buying funny money and go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Luck is definitely a factor, but skill comes into play once you've already got him in the lap room. Almost anyone can sell one dance, but you make money when the guys completely forget themselves and want you to keep going and going and going. THAT takes skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    I think personality IS part of the skill.
    Having the skill to know what kind of personality this guy likes and delivering.
    Exactly!

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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    I'd say many times it's luck for me, wish I could say skill but many times it's luck, being in the right place at the right time. I do know what you're talking about though, there's girls in my club that are ALWAYS in VIP and this one girl is really annoying IMO but she knows how to win the men over. I'm still trying to figure it out!

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    Great points ladies. I agree about it being about skill getting them to keep spending and I am good at that part but I never know who to approach and who will be a great spender. It always shocks the shit out of me once I have that big spender and I feel that it was luck that I approached him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    None of the above.

    Personality.
    Nah, "personality" is the answer inexperienced girls give. It takes SKILL to project the right personality for each different guy.

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    Default Re: big spending custies - luck, timing or skill?

    Saturday night I learned a lesson about why I may not be getting those big spending customers....
    I was sitting with a guy, doing lots of dances. He spent his cash and then decided to put down the CC. He got $200 in funny money. So I danced for all the 200, then in my mind I'm making my exit strategy. I started in with the "Well its been so nice but I gotta go..." And he's like wait! And pulled out another 200. Over the next couple hours he pulled out $600 in funny money.

    I realized that I've just been too antsy to move on to the next guy when I think the custy's well has run dry. I should be hustling down to the last penny instead of running off. My club doesn't have a VIP hustle, we only get paid per dance. I suppose if it were a matter of extending the VIP hour it would be more intuitive to stay with one spender. I've become a "wannadance" girl and its served me well, but in the case of big spenders my habit of moving on too fast is going to hurt me. Okay lesson learned, maybe that little tidbit will be helpful to someone.

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    What I want to learn is....

    What do you say to get a customer to take out a couple grand and just hand it over? Anyone who has mastered that hustle, please teach me your ways!

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    ^^ yeah..unless he is so annoying you dont want to dance for him anymore...wait for him to say he's done before you move on. You never know how many times he's willing to take money out. I've had guys make a half dozen or more trips to the ATM....I dont know why the hell they didnt take more out at a time..I guess they figured "ok..THIS is IT...$200 more and I'm DONE"..then they couldnt stand the thought of stopping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    Nah, "personality" is the answer inexperienced girls give. It takes SKILL to project the right personality for each different guy.
    Um...thanks....


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