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    Callyish
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    So im feeling a huge mixture of emotions right now and just damn confused...

    I met this girl at a club I feature at every few months. Shes a sweet girl, has a unique look that works for her and shes a lot of fun. I ended up befriending her and we have fun together.

    She asked me about getting into showgirl work so I offered to bring her with me to Winnipeg, I hooked her up with my agent and brought her out here and have been trying to help her get ready for Miss Nude Ontario.

    Well she promised me she was going to be here to work which is what I told my agent, I told him shes reliable, sober and has great work ethics.

    Its now Fri, there hasn't been a single night shes been sober, shes been hanging out with customers after shows and going out with them, shes been partying way too much with the manager at the one club we're at this week, shes been flirting with her one driver so much hes convinced hes going to get into her pants... the same driver i've had serious drama with in the past and now hes freaking out on me thinking im stopping her from fucking him. She stayed the night at another drivers place last night. Shes been letting a customer from this really shady bar drive her around and shes been hanging out with him. Shes completely blowing off getting ready for the contest, shes ignoring everything I say to her.

    She wanted me to help her build a professional image in this industry and get in good with agents. So I told her and showed her what to do and how to do it. Yet shes just ignoring it all and going about partying.

    I got a phone call from my agent today going 'so your friend is a bit of a partier eh?'

    Her actions are not only making her look bad and fucking over her chances of having respect from her agents... but they are starting to make me look bad for bringing her with me.

    The worse of it is, I had a huge fall out with this agency in the past because of other issues and i've just started to get the trust back from them and started to get some good work from them. So the selfish part of me is going 'fuck shes going to ruin this for me'

    I've tried to talk to her but she just doesn't seem to get it.

    I don't know what to do What should I say to her? Im really ready to tell her to just do shit on her own because I don't want to be connected to her.

    On the other hand I love her to death and want to help her but I just don't know how to get through to her. Im really worried shes going to end up dead in a ditch somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyish View Post
    Im really ready to tell her to just do shit on her own because I don't want to be connected to her.
    This says it all. Thats what I would do. And I'd tell her what I was doing and why. Dont let soemone else bring you down just to be nice!

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    First of all, what have you tried telling her already to get her to shape up?

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    That last sentence tells you exactly what you should do. Tell her in those words - "I've tried to help you but you're hurting both of us, and my connection to you is ruining my professional image. From now on you're going to have to go it alone. Good luck."

    Either she will wise up and straighten up, or you will have severed the tie. You also need to make your agent aware of this. Don't let her drag you down.

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    I agree with Yekh.

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    yep cut her off I have no problem cutting someout of my life. You are working very hard and doing very well she is not worth it.

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    It really seems like you've gone out of your way to advise her, and she's repaying you by being an irresponsible lush. I'd have a chat with the agent about it, and follow everyone else's advice about ditching her.

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    Is it one of those Tbay girls?

    What you do/don'tdo will not effect what R&M think of you/ how they treat you. So don't worry about it. You didn't deserve the wrath last time, what's up with 'earning trust back'?? You didn't DO anything! I'm sure they're just happy to have fresh meat, partier or not.

    Sit her ass down and explain it all to her. I know you're not confrontational, but it's obviously what she needs. And, until she smartens up, she's on her own with regards to bookings n stuff, OK? Don't let someone else drag you down, you've got enough drama without someone else providing it for you

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    So im not being selfish? I mean next to her I feel like a workaholic who doesn't like to have fun. Its like... I feel like im trying to hold her back from enjoying her job. Maybe I take things too serious?

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    Oh I know I didn't do anything wrong last time Scarlett but thats just how R&M are. I feel like im making a huge deal of nothing but thats just how I am... we all know I like to make a big deal of nothing lol.

    This is a girl from Kingston.... I really thought she was a good girl... I dunno... I trust too easily I guess.

    I've also been hearing from other girls that I might as well consider myself banned from bringing new people with me again *sigh*

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    If you are hearing complaints form other people...then you are not over-reacting. Dont let her damage your rep.

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    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. You've clearly gone waaaaaaay out of your way for this girl and she repays you with such awful behavior. I'm sorry Cally, it's a shitty situation but I agree, you should probably cut her off. She's shown her true colors. Wish her the best and walk away.
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    I'm tellin' ya....if she doesn't smarten up, another girl will hand her ass to her on a platter. It's sad, but that's the way the local showgirls like to deal with out of control out-of-towners. It's the most effective.
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    Cally...you are such a nice, sweet girl...I'm not suprised you want to try and help her get her foot in the door to the business....But you have worked so so hard to get where you are. It would suck very much if you lost ground, or got bad name because of some other girls stupidity.

    You've got to look out for yourself first. You worked to hard to get where you are. If she can't straighten up and act appropriatly...fuck it.
    I would cut her lose, and tell her when she'd ready to be serious, you will help her, until then..you can't afford having her ruin your image.

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    I just had a talk with her telling her what i've heard/seen and shes like 'i dont care what people think of me, they take me for who I am or they just can fuck themselves'.

    I told her its not that I dont want her to have fun I just want her to maintain a professional image.

    I don't know ... blah..

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    I blame it on the lack of industry quality control in the East.
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    If she doesn't care what others think of her, that's fine, but to be a professional, you have to care. You're a professional, and she's not, obviously. She is not serious about going forward in her career, in a serious sense, so you're wasting your time trying to help her.

    Apologize to your management for having bad judgement on her, and cut your ties. Hopefully they'll forget you brought her around after a while.

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    It's rough bringing a rookie to Wpg. I have done it way tooo many times!!

    Some did well...others not so well!! R&M will not hold her against you...only how you react to the situation.

    You can't make a good dancer...you can show a girl what to do..but you cant make her do it!

    Scarlett remembers when a rookie left me standing at the airport in WPG. She screwed up the scheduling..but they never held it against me!

    Do me a favor...if you have a girl travel with you...make it clear...she is NOT YOUR GIRL...she is a dancer who wants to travel with you. Let R&M know that you dont want to be held responsible for her actions...she is just a girl you are helping out!

    SHE is responsible for her own behavior and actions. R&M DO understand that! They know you dont hold her hand.....AND you DAMN well better NOT be!!

    Whether she screws up royally or not...they will still ask you to bring girls again.

    There are not enough naked bodies in this country or something!! WTF?? I have been retired for 2 years now...and I still get calls wondering when I am coming back to work from my hiatus and asking me to send girls out!!
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    Totally off the subject, but what is the difference between a showgirl and a stripper? And since you know something about being a feature performer, can I get some advice? I travel about 2 weeks out of every month for my other profession and usually dance while I'm traveling to cover my trip and my [guilty] shopping habit. I feel bad when I leave a good club so suddenly at the end of a trip, since I make good connections there w everyone. I've danced at tons of clubs and never any real drama, am drug free, don't drink. How can I get into being a Feature entertainer at clubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyish View Post
    I just had a talk with her telling her what i've heard/seen and shes like 'i dont care what people think of me, they take me for who I am or they just can fuck themselves'.

    I told her its not that I dont want her to have fun I just want her to maintain a professional image.

    I don't know ... blah..
    Damn. She obviously doesn't care about being professional at all. She just sees this as one big party.

    Cut her loose.

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    Well I just went to talk to her but she was in the shower and her driver was sitting on her bed drinking a beer

    Anyway she wants to leave tomorrow but I refuse to let her until she pays me the $300 she owes me. Also I really think she should stick out one more week and at least make profit. Im going to tell her im just letting her do her thing next week and thats that... meh...

    Also ITGirl... featuring requires you to build a list of titles and credits ie porn, magazines and contests like miss nudes a poppin. Then invest a few grand(at least) into costumes and props then get with an agency and yea a bunch more stuff. Do a search its been discussed on here a few times now. I would do it and give you links but im in a hotel with no wireless so im using ancient slow as hell dialup lol. Or talk to Alena Downs or Ginger Lee they would know more about featuring in the US.

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    She owes you 300 dollars?! Why can't she pay you that now? After all you did for her, I cannot believe she owes you money.

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