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    I wonder how clubs arrive at prices for lap dances. It seems the going rate is $20 or $25 for a song. If that's the price and the dancers are busy, then the price is right or maybe even too low. But I have been in clubs where the price is $25 and no one at all is buying dances. I bet if the price were $12 or $15, the dancers would be busy. I went to a club lately where the dance price was $12. I bought one dance, then five more from the same dancer. If the price had been $25 I might have just settled for generous stage tipping. Why not try to arrive at a price that gets customers to spend instead of just trying to charge the "going rate"? Price it right and more dances will be sold and the dancers will earn more.

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    Well I've never had a huge issue selling $20 dances. Besides my club runs 2 for 1's about once an hour or so...so the cheap-os can get a piece too.


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    Yes and if we did 4 for a $1 we'd sell even more. However we'd have to do A HELL of a lot more work for the same about of money.
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    dances have been $20 for ever...if anything it should go up not down...the cost for everything else is going up but we should make less...don't think so...I started dancing 10 years ago and the price has always been the same...although you might find a crack head who will dance for less...

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    It would be nice if SC's could adjust their prices to find the top of the optimal price "bell curve" sort of like hotel rooms do. The problem is that there are so many variables involved in finding it (each mix of dancer and customer would come to a different price) it would be too confusing. SC's tend to use a fixed number, usually with a last digit ending in a'0', sometimes in a '5', rarely anything else for sake of simplicity. A fixed price is also a countermeasure from people getting taken.

    Something often forgotten though is that those "dead" times we see in SC's often aren't as dead as they may appear. Instead of selling a couple of dances apiece to a lot of different customers, a gal may be selling a lot of dances to just a couple. So mathematically it evens out, and makes no sense to discount.
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    I think $20 per dance is fine. It would also be smart for SCs to offer 3 dances for $50. That would get a lot of people to go from getting just one dance to getting 3. No matter what business it is, people like to get a discount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylorlila View Post
    Well I've never had a huge issue selling $20 dances. Besides my club runs 2 for 1's about once an hour or so...so the cheap-os can get a piece too.
    After tip, I'm paying almost for 2 dances during a 2-1.

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    This is stupid. Would we sell more? Maybe. Would we then work twice as hard for the same amount of money? Absolutely.

    Sorry, but a strip club is no place for cheap-asses. And I wouldnt want to do anything to attract them. I'm worth full price. At LEAST. If you dont want to pay that, you are free to rent a porno,get a six pack and stay your cheap ass at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirer52 View Post
    I wonder how clubs arrive at prices for lap dances. It seems the going rate is $20 or $25 for a song. If that's the price and the dancers are busy, then the price is right or maybe even too low. But I have been in clubs where the price is $25 and no one at all is buying dances. I bet if the price were $12 or $15, the dancers would be busy. I went to a club lately where the dance price was $12. I bought one dance, then five more from the same dancer. If the price had been $25 I might have just settled for generous stage tipping. Why not try to arrive at a price that gets customers to spend instead of just trying to charge the "going rate"? Price it right and more dances will be sold and the dancers will earn more.
    in my opinion....... if dances were 1/2 the price they are now at my current club (they're 20 bucks)

    i would make the same ammount of money.

    actually, i might make less, if it started to attract a "cheaper" crowd.

    and i'm sorry but, i'm not giving private topless dances for 10 bucks, the only exception being 2-4-1s and other occasional specials.

    if i had to dance for that price (i used to) again, i would quit.

    and sorry again, but i agree with cameron. i'm not interested in customers who are "trying to save money" while they're in the club.

    i mean, i understand having a budget. we all have a budget when we go to strip clubs (i know i do), but some people's budget is UNREASONABLE. some people come in with 50 bucks and expect to have a fantastic time with girls all over them for hours.

    it isn't going to happen, and if it DOES, it means girls are sitting there for free (pretty much). and i can promise you that i want to trip said girls as they're walking back to the dressing room.

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    ^i agree. you'd do more dances but make half the money for each, so you'd be making the same.

    a guy the other night tried to tell me this. he called me over and said i was selling dances the wrong way. i should lower my price so i'd sell more than the other girls. uh, do not tell me how to do my job. and i am super annoyed at the op, too. if you cant afford 20-30 bucks, dont go. really. we dont want you there.

    Quote Originally Posted by N00bCusty View Post
    After tip, I'm paying almost for 2 dances during a 2-1.
    good. i hate 2 for 1s. we deserve to make the amount that we do, more, really, because we are GRINDING ON SOME STRANGE, RANDOM DUDE'S CROTCH. we deserve to make way more than we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    good. i hate 2 for 1s. we deserve to make the amount that we do, more, really, because we are GRINDING ON SOME STRANGE, RANDOM DUDE'S CROTCH. we deserve to make way more than we do.
    Brings up the question, would you rather have a guy who consistently spends a benjamin on you a week (shows up once a week) or a guy who spends a couple of benjamins but you don't see him for a few weeks?

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    ^ i dont think what i said brought up that question at all. diff girls prefer diff things. i'd rather have it all at once and see him every few weeks. other girls will say differently. but either way.. if youre spending say 200. spend that on dances, vip, whatever, but i do not like 2 for ones. luckily my club doesnt have them. but i should not be making less money or even the same amount for more work. plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N00bCusty View Post
    Brings up the question, would you rather have a guy who consistently spends a benjamin on you a week (shows up once a week) or a guy who spends a couple of benjamins but you don't see him for a few weeks?
    I'd rather have both.

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    All I'm saying is you have to price for the market. At many clubs it's not a question of 3 dances for $60 vs. 4 dances for $60. It may be a question of 4 dances for $60 vs. no dances at all and no money because the price puts customers off. It all depends on the club and the clientele. No one suggests that a dancer who can fill her card at $20 a dance should sell for less -- she should probably try to sell for more. But if it's a question of doing dances for $15 vs. sitting around making nothing, well...

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    ^ i'll make nothing, thanks. you get what you pay for. if you want a good dance, you pay a good price.

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    If the club is pricing by industry standards they have every right to ask that. The price of dances hasnt been touched by inflation...the price has been the same for decades. Know before you walk in that dances are $20. If you cant afford it..dont come in. We certainly dont want to attract bargain shoppers...
    Honestly..I'd rather make nothing then sell my services at a discount. Thats insulting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N00bCusty View Post
    After tip, I'm paying almost for 2 dances during a 2-1.

    Well then thats very nice of you. Unfortuantly alot of guys go "oh come see me when its a 2 for 1" and trust me...those are the ones that don't pay for almost 2 dances after tip.


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    I'd rather not sell dances at all than sell to a bunch of cheapos. I'm worth full price and more. If you don't like it, tough shit. If we got a dead crowd full of broke lameo's there to see how much they can get away with for the least amount of money, that's fine. I'll read a book in the back. There will be someone who will spend on me, and it only takes one guy. I'm not desperate enough to grind on someone for twelve dollars, sorry.

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    My friend in SF claims to adjust the price at her whim and fancy, never lower than 40 and sometimes 100...She might be lying and she might just be a knockout with a nose for suckers. I have no idea- but I do like to work at places where overcharging can sometimes go undetected. It sucks if you don't have the balls to upsell(umm, lying is wrong?) but if enough girls start doing it, say charging 40 for topless when thats the nude price, then we might just have something....

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennedyWinters View Post
    My friend in SF claims to adjust the price at her whim and fancy, never lower than 40 and sometimes 100...She might be lying and she might just be a knockout with a nose for suckers. I have no idea- but I do like to work at places where overcharging can sometimes go undetected. It sucks if you don't have the balls to upsell(umm, lying is wrong?) but if enough girls start doing it, say charging 40 for topless when thats the nude price, then we might just have something....
    ^^ Yes, I don't think there's anything wrong with overcharging, as long as you tell the customer how much you charge for dances BEFORE you start the dance. Like somebody mentioned before, the prices for lapdances have been $20 for as long as anyone can remember, while the price of everything else (gas, food, cost of living, etc.) has been going up. So why shouldn't we charge more?

    As for doing lapdances for less than $20, that's ridiculous. Like somebody has already mentioned, all it takes is ONE guy to make your night. So, yes, I'd rather not do that many dances if there's a lot of gentlemen in the club that are cheap, because 95% of the time I'll find that one or two guys before I go home that will buy 5-15 dances and tip generously.

    Also, I don't know if you are aware of the fact that dancers have to give a certain percentage of their dance money to the club. So . . . if a dancer is doing a $12 dance and still has to give the club $2-3 out of that dance, that leaves the dancer with about $9-10, that's just not right.

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    I was chatting with a girl from my club about under cutting - neither of us gets too worked up over it, but when I said, it was interesting that I averaged about x dollars per hour, but that I wouldn't give a customer an hour for x dollars (in comparison with other girls that do) she pointed out that I averaged x dollars an hour BY refusing to give an hour at x dollars.
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    ^^ Jenny, my brain is kind of toast this evening and am not following. Can you give examples?

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    People complain about $20 dances being too high!? Shoot, it costs me anywhere from $40 to $60 for a one song private dance. But then, nothing about my clubs ever correlates well to SW.
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    All I'm saying is you have to price for the market.
    Um, dude, that's what they're doing when they decide they'd rather sit in the dressing room doing Sudoku than deal with low-balling cheapskates that are trying to commoditize their services. If you can't afford $20/dance, you're not part of their market. There is still such a thing as opportunity cost, even in stripping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    It would be nice if SC's could adjust their prices to find the top of the optimal price "bell curve" sort of like hotel rooms do.
    Yep, exactly. Some goods have a minimal price such as things because there are parts and minimum labor required, and you simply can't go lower without losing money, but when it comes to services, the best price is whatever price brings in the most money over the long run. If you have a club where the girls are saying work is really slow, it may well be time to find the new sweet spot. If money is good, it may be time to up the price a bit, however there is a whole psychology to pricing and many people don't realize how adding even $1 can totally change the psychology. For example, $20 is a single bill, and has a certain psychological value associated with it, but $25 can psychologically seem like a big jump even though it's only 25% increase. To this day still most stores in the USA price items to the nearest .99 cents because frankly, it works. It doesn't necessarily make sense, but it appeals to the minds of the majority. When it comes to requirements, like gas and food, people accept price hikes easily, but when it comes to entertainment price hikes can end up lowering overall profits. Sometimes there is just no way to know what's going to happen until you try.

    As doc said, there are a lot of variables including what happens when some girls are banking at a certain price, and others are not? If you lower the price the girls that are already very busy lose money, so they aren't happy. Perhaps the system could support dancer set pricing, but without some trials, it would be hard to guess how customers would react to that. Possibly they'd simply go on shopping sprees and try to find the best possible price vs accepting that some dancers want more for the same amount of dance time. Anyway... lots of variables.

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