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    I'm not sure if or where this has been discussed before, but here I go...

    The second-to-last night that I worked, struck up a conversation with a customer and he was a pretty smart, nice, 28-year-old man. He initiated a lap dance and after the dance, we continued talking. Well, over the next half hour (it was really slow, I had no one else to kill time with...) he decides I'm different, that I'm one of the few "honest" people that he's met in a long time and he wants to get to know me for real. One of those types. I've been getting these kinds of losers SO MUCH since I started, so I just straight out was like: "Dude, you just want me to fuck you." and of course he denied it and gave me his card and kept telling me he was serious blah blah blah. The whole: "Just ten minutes, I'll buy you coffee or an ice cream, just ten minutes, I can be that guy..." Ten minutes OTC. And he's dead serious and dead sober!

    Well eventually he went off on his way, but he came back the next night! I complained in the dressing room to one of the girls, and she gives me this dead-serious look and says: "Milk him for all he's got."

    How do you do that without them realizing that you're milking them? And what if you give them the runaround, e.g. promising to meet them or giving them a phony phone number, and they come back pissed off?

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    Don't milk them by lying to them. Be like, wow, you're so sweet, I'm having a great time with you. Huh? OTC? You know I don't do that. I could get in so much trouble. Hey, are you ready for a dance? Good, I love dancing for you...



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    A lot of times though, I get the whole: "I don't want to be your customer" thing, they don't want to me to dance for them because they take me too seriously. Lmao where the heck do they come up with this crap?! The guys who are dead serious like this are too hard to milk. And they'd recognize it if I did it. I think with the silly drunk ones I definitely could milk, and will, but the serious psychos are the ones I get the most and the ones that I would benefit the most from extorting lol.

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    If they have gotten to "know" you this much....you are spending too much time chatting for free. Dont spend half an hour sitting with a guy for free and then expect him to spend. More often then not...it wont happen.Why would he pay for your time when you are giving it away for free? Plus ..if you spending so much time with him for free you MUST like him. So he thinks OTC is a real possibility now.

    Next time...spend a few songs tops talking..ask for another dance. If he says no..go away. Go read a magazine in the dressing room if theres nobody else to talk to. Try again later.

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    You're totally right. That's the mistake I keep making, I talk to 'em too damned much! I just gotta keep moving along. I can't wait to work tonight and try out what I've learned! Big money big money big money!

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    These guys are nothing but freakin time wasters. The only time I'm gonna sit around and listen to someone tell me about how much they want to take me out, etc, is when they're PAYING for my time, either in champagne or during a dance. Otherwise i dont care how sincere his emotions are, blah blah blah, he is not interested in becoming a lucrative customer he just wants to be my friend, and I already have plenty of friends i can hang out with for free.

    You'll get a lot of this when you first start dancing, you just have to learn how to COnTROL conversations so that they don't get so personal/chatty/intimate. If the guy makes it clear that he's really interested in the "real you", then you know that he's not gonna keep paying the "stripper you" to hang around, so cut him loose and move on.

    big warning signs, these losers will generally be younger, as in under 30 yrs old.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bella du jour View Post
    big warning signs, these losers will generally be younger, as in under 30 yrs old.
    Yup lol!

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    The only ethical way to milk him is to only chat with him in the club when he's paying you. Let him know that he can pay you (hourly or by the song) for getting to know you in the club. If he won't pay, walk away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeTheRed View Post
    The only ethical way to milk him is to only chat with him in the club when he's paying you. Let him know that he can pay you (hourly or by the song) for getting to know you in the club. If he won't pay, walk away.
    Pretty much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinaida View Post
    A lot of times though, I get the whole: "I don't want to be your customer" thing, they don't want to me to dance for them because they take me too seriously. Lmao where the heck do they come up with this crap?! The guys who are dead serious like this are too hard to milk. And they'd recognize it if I did it.
    If they won't get a dance than don't sit with them.



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    The longer you sit with a customer, the more time you allow for a feeling of complacency to grow on his end. He won't feel the need to buy. I notice when I [email protected]#$ this up because the conversation will shift, or he'll zone out and the energy will die between us. He'll start to believe that he's different than other customers, and the conversation will follow that belief. i.e. he'll start talking about a relationship with you, or telling you how he's different than other guys, or telling you how he notices that you are different. Hmm... wonder where he got that idea?

    Here's the kicker: He's not delusional. You actually taught him that he was different than other customers by the way you treated him (as in sitting with him without trying to close him or mentioning in some way that your time is valuable/worth money.)

    Once you've sat there long enough without getting paid/discussing a VIP situation/selling a dance, it will be hard to close him. It's probably better to cut your losses and move on to another guy.
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    Thanks all for the feedback, I put all of your wisdom into my hustle tonight and have made my highest in a night so far. Pretty much, once I accomplished what I was after (lap dances) I ditched 'em. Except for one older guy who got 3 separate lap dances from me and tipped me $20 each time, and kept stuffing wads of ones into my clothes while I sat with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    If they have gotten to "know" you this much....you are spending too much time chatting for free. Dont spend half an hour sitting with a guy for free and then expect him to spend. More often then not...it wont happen.Why would he pay for your time when you are giving it away for free? Plus ..if you spending so much time with him for free you MUST like him. So he thinks OTC is a real possibility now.

    Next time...spend a few songs tops talking..ask for another dance. If he says no..go away. Go read a magazine in the dressing room if theres nobody else to talk to. Try again later.
    Agreed. The idea is to spend all that time talking and getting him to fall in love with you AFTER you're in vip They rarely rarely rarely spend money after you sit around talking and making them fall in love with you for free - they already got what they wanted so why should they pay?


    You need to keep the convo light, fun and brief until you get them into vip. Then you can get a little more serious, but not too much!

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    I have this happen to me all the time, and it is so irritating! I usually say I feel safer in the club, and (because of SW) I say I had a bad experience agreeing to meet a custie once and now I'm super careful, as I bat my eyes and play up my innocence ;-) This usually gets them in the club a couple more times. If I really don't want to meet them OTC then I just give the same excuse until they get tired of it.
    I do have a couple of regulars though that I do spend time with, and it has been great! I have one custie that pays me tons extra to leave work at eleven on Saturdays and go eat breakfast with him. He's also the one that went furniture shopping with me and ending up paying for 2/3 of my new bedroom set! I'm just careful that we only make plans that involve us being in public and only for a couple hours at a time. He's totally cool with the arrangement.
    If you have seen him several times and would trust hanging out with him, then go for it! It's just more ways to make money! Just be safe!

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    Lol no thanks, I hate the idea of champagne rooms now because I don't like spending more than the allotted lap dance time with the same guy lol. I've only had 1 customer that I genuinely liked!

    Guys are nuts.

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