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    This was the only article really I could find but I am watching in Nancy Grace. Nancy can be a bitch sometimes, but this had her in tears.



    This is sad.

    They said it wasn't a post partum depression kind of thing - she had been researching how to kill a fetus, etc., and had hid from everyone that she was pregnant.

    Why didn't she know that if you are actually desperate enough, you can leave your baby with a fire department or hospital...

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    This is sad, but she sounded like she was short a few bricks.

    She put the baby in a trashbag, put it in the bathtub, then took a shower. You'd have to be crazy to be able o shower with a trashbag containing the baby you just gave birth to. The medical reports said the baby was alive for 10 minutes before it suffocated. Which means she pretty much showered while the baby died. Plus, there is proof this was premeditated. She searched online for ways to kill the baby. She just as easily could have searched for what to do with an unwanted baby, and found out she could have dropped it off anonomously at any hospital.

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    Whoah. Thoughts:

    1) The title of the thread made it sound like it was thru childbirth! I was like, did she squeeze too hard er somethin?

    2)How Jefferey Dahmer! Showering on a dead baby in a plastic bag. Mental meditation for the day (can't help it now!)

    3)Isn't there a law that went into effect that...you can leave a baby anonymously at the doorstep of a hospital, and they have to take it and won't consider it a crime?

    4)It would be cool if such "alternative methods" like above came up on at least one of her little Google searches.

    5)Reminds me of the time I researched "tubal ligation" and was hit with 2 full pages of "tubal ligation reversal" even when I searched "tubal ligation -reversal"

    Obviously we are still in the dark ages of some women's rights.

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    Maybe she felt unable to get an abortion for some reason.

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    Thats all find and good, but if she could manage to carry the baby full term she could have found a safeway. Obviously she knows how to use google.

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    It sound like she was suffering from depression while she was pregnant. When she gave birth she was off her rocket. She proubarly had something really bad happen to her, to behave this way!
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    oh god..this is horrible.
    There's a wild side behind every innocent face.

    End violence against women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flickad View Post
    Maybe she felt unable to get an abortion for some reason.
    ^She was attending a Catholic school.

    No doubt that had something to do with why she didnt just get an abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    This is sad, but she sounded like she was short a few bricks.
    True...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post
    ^She was attending a Catholic school.

    No doubt that had something to do with why she didnt just get an abortion.
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    ^^banning abortion and stopping abortion are two very different things




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    Dear Mister Bush,



    This is only a glimmer of the shit that will happen if you ban abortion.



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    ^Word. Well, that an poking holes in your uterus with a coat hanger.

    I'm afraid to foster a friggin' CAT because I may get too attached... I couldn't imagine giving birth and then trying to kill the baby... It takes an especially twisted person to do that. How abortion is somehow worse, I couldn't imagine.
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    I just can't help but think in this situation, what can we as society do differently?

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    ^ Offer aid to young women who need true honest advice not clouded by the judgement of religion? I have no idea.


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    In this situation.....stop scaring Catholic girls into thinking abortion is so terrible. Girls fear they will go to hell for an abortion, then as the pregnancy progresses they start to fear more and more the consequences of giving birth out of wedlock..it drives them to do crazy shit.
    NOT that this is an excsue at all. She still should have had the sence to drop the baby off somewhere anonomously. But still.


    Dear Mister Bush,

    This is only a glimmer of the shit that will happen if you ban abortion.

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    Yep. Thoes damn prolifers only care about gettign the baby born. They don't give a damn about what happens to it after it is born. If they were so proo life, you'd think they'd crusade to set up better programs for unwanted babies...possibly making Amercan adoptions a bit easier and more affordable to do, for a start.
    If they ban abortions...back alley illegal abortions will start to rise again, girls dying from infection and bleding to death, babies being dumped in the trash....it won't be a good thing. Not one bit.
    You should never ever force a woman to be a mother if she doesn't want to. They think they are concidering the babies life? It deserves a chance at life? No matter what that chance is? Cause I know a baby in the trash don't have much of a chance at living. It was better off aborted, before it was anythign more than a bundle of cells unable to feel pain


    Grr... I must exit this thread, it's going in a direction that REALLY gets me riled up. I despise the Catholic religion and pro life people.

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    Oh sweet Lord, why? Oh man.

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    Unbelievable. WTF!

    And she should get major time, or whatever. That poor little baby. After she felt it move inside her, after she took care of it for 9 months in utero, she do THIS shit??? WOWWWWW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    In this situation.....stop scaring Catholic girls into thinking abortion is so terrible. Girls fear they will go to hell for an abortion, then as the pregnancy progresses they start to fear more and more the consequences of giving birth out of wedlock..it drives them to do crazy shit.
    NOT that this is an excsue at all. She still should have had the sence to drop the baby off somewhere anonomously. But still.





    Yep. Thoes damn prolifers only care about gettign the baby born. They don't give a damn about what happens to it after it is born. If they were so proo life, you'd think they'd crusade to set up better programs for unwanted babies...possibly making Amercan adoptions a bit easier and more affordable to do, for a start.
    If they ban abortions...back alley illegal abortions will start to rise again, girls dying from infection and bleding to death, babies being dumped in the trash....it won't be a good thing. Not one bit.
    You should never ever force a woman to be a mother if she doesn't want to. They think they are concidering the babies life? It deserves a chance at life? No matter what that chance is? Cause I know a baby in the trash don't have much of a chance at living. It was better off aborted, before it was anythign more than a bundle of cells unable to feel pain


    Grr... I must exit this thread, it's going in a direction that REALLY gets me riled up. I despise the Catholic religion and pro life people.
    Took the words out of my mouth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexi View Post
    Unbelievable. WTF!

    And she should get major time, or whatever. That poor little baby. After she felt it move inside her, after she took care of it for 9 months in utero, she do THIS shit??? WOWWWWW
    Young, irrational people like her don't think that way. While a mature, prepared person feels the baby move and falls in love, the young teen probably felt fear, anger, resentment, and self-loathing, which drove her insane. Heck, maybe she was insane in the first place.

    This is why I support abortion and birth control services. Every child should be wanted, no exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    In this situation.....stop scaring Catholic girls into thinking abortion is so terrible. Girls fear they will go to hell for an abortion, then as the pregnancy progresses they start to fear more and more the consequences of giving birth out of wedlock..it drives them to do crazy shit.
    NOT that this is an excsue at all. She still should have had the sence to drop the baby off somewhere anonomously. But still.





    Yep. Thoes damn prolifers only care about gettign the baby born. They don't give a damn about what happens to it after it is born. If they were so proo life, you'd think they'd crusade to set up better programs for unwanted babies...possibly making Amercan adoptions a bit easier and more affordable to do, for a start.
    If they ban abortions...back alley illegal abortions will start to rise again, girls dying from infection and bleding to death, babies being dumped in the trash....it won't be a good thing. Not one bit.
    You should never ever force a woman to be a mother if she doesn't want to. They think they are concidering the babies life? It deserves a chance at life? No matter what that chance is? Cause I know a baby in the trash don't have much of a chance at living. It was better off aborted, before it was anythign more than a bundle of cells unable to feel pain


    Grr... I must exit this thread, it's going in a direction that REALLY gets me riled up. I despise the Catholic religion and pro life people.
    Yep I agree

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    Well, I mostly agree with you Kaylinn, with some slight changes.

    It isn't just the Catholics that are so adamant against abortion. The people who picket, scream at girls walking into clinics, and preach on their pulpits are usually other sects of Christianity besides Catholic.

    And it isn't just a Christian issue. There are plenty of people who are violently pro-life but have no religious affiliation.

    I went to a very conservative, Catholic all-girls school. I was very lucky, because while abortion was considered a horrid sin, they did teach us a very thorough sex-ed, as well as alternatives, such as in-depth information on adoption, financial support issues, etc.

    Our "rival" school, a nondenominational Christian all-girls, preached against abortion...but at the same time, if a student became pregnant, she wasn't allowed to attend school (which seemed insane to me...if she knew she wouldn't be able to come back to school, wouldn't she be more likely to get an abortion?). At least at mine, if a girl did become pregnant, she had access to all of counselors, nurses, and of course was allowed at school.

    I am staunchly pro-choice, but I can't criticize all Catholics for the fanaticism of some.

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    ^ Oh, I agree with you. I wasn't saying that ALL Catholics were crazy prolifers. I was just expressiong my hatred for all prolifers, regardless of religion...and also expressing my despise for the Catholic religion in general, because I don't agree with what they teach...although I do find it impresive that you had such good sex ed, and think that's a wonderful thing. Wish all school did that, maybe teen pregnancy rate would be lower.

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    For the love of peanut butter, if you're going to oppose abortion, then please support birth control 100% so we don't have to abort nearly as much.

    See? Simple logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatshepsut View Post
    For the love of peanut butter,......
    omg that was so funny i couldn't help but laugh really loud... it similar to what i say... ..."for the love of cheese"




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