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    Okay so I understand the whole 'make sure we keep the bad people out of our country' thing that US customs has going on. But the way they have treated me the last two times i've crossed the boarder is uncalled for.

    We all know I come to Fargo to see Scotty. I am not dancing here, and I have no intentions of doing so.

    The first time I came down the GUY(yes guy) STRIP SEARCHED ME! All because he found out im a dancer.

    He then empties my suitcase, goes through my day timer, goes through my laptop and reads all my email he harasses me and hounds me for a good hour. Then ends it with 'if I find out your dancing at the northern I will personally make sure you never make it back into this country'. Whatever fuck him im not dancing here.

    Well this time when I come down I get the same damn guy and this time he keeps me for an hour and a half, takes my laptop to a different room, goes through every damn file on my computer(I checked my history on my laptop). He hounds me, makes me fill out some questionaire... he then empties my bag and goes through everything, he googles my name and my stage name and decides im dancing at the Northern. He then YELLS AT ME because im in tears from feeling violated. I told him I have no intentions of dancing at the Northern but he doesn't believe me because im a stripper and strippers are lying whores(his words). He then goes 'I have no proof but I KNOW your dancing there and know that everytime you cross the boarder it will be hell for you'.

    Fuck this shit! I just want to come to Fargo to see my man.

    There HAS to be a way for me to come here without dealing with this shit every damn time.

    How can I prove that I am not dancing there?

    Is there any way to make this easier?

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    Wow I don't see how he has the right to talk to you like that, or anything else for that matter. Does he have a supervisor that you can complain to or can you file a complaint somehow?

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    that is harrasment, Id make a report. Digging thru your bags, and your computer is uncalled for. And a strip search? Thats just flat out him trying to humiliate you. Id file a report, and look into a lawsuit

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    Bring a couple pounds of narcotics and explosives with you....they don't seem to mind then at all . Make sure to wear a turban.

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    Well, that doesn't sound very legal of him.

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    That's. Fucked. Up. What the fuck is that asshole's problem? I get treated like that on occasion when I fly and it pisses me off to no end. I don't know what to tell you to do about it, but I just wanted to let you know I kinda know what you are going through.

    My poor Cally. I'll kick him in the shins if you want me to.

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    Whoa. How is that extreme legal???

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    omg that is totally f'ed up and yes i agree w/ roxanna, that is harassment. File a report!

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    I am going to file a complain with the boarder patrol. This shit is just uncalled for. It will be at least 7 weeks before im back as im booked in BC for 5 weeks starting in Oct. Next time I come across if I have this problem I will be contacting a lawyer.

    There has to be a way for me to prove im not dancing when I come down, fuck man I just want to see my man and get laid! Arg.

    What doesn't help my case is the boy is a manager and DJ at the club that this guy is convinced im dancing at.

    Its funny how they were trying to tell me this is random, they search people at random. The bus sends a list of names of people crossing the boarder so when I went in my name was highlighted on the list of passangers. BS its random, they had me targeted before I even went across!

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    You don't have to prove shit. You say you're not dancing there. So unless they can prove you are in fact dancing there (which they can't because you're not) tell them to fuck off and talk to your lawyer.

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    Some of them are like that. And you don't really have to be a dancer. A woman traveling alone is very suspicious somehow. (I had a friend who was harassed going in on a grad student visa. Like full out bitched out by the customs official for going to school in the states on the american taxpayer's dollars. She made the mistake of trying to explain that a graduate program in engineering didn't really work like that, and that it was more like employment and she was expected to produce things while she was there, and was then DETAINED until another official came and told the guy to fuck off - nicely).I think in Canada if they are searching your person at all you have the right to ask for a female immigration officer. I would suggest asking, even for a cursory search, for a woman official. If he refuses, and basically insists on touching you in anyway, get his name and employee number. Customs officials have boatloads of discretion, but insisting that a man gets to paw you at a border crossing, particularly if a woman is available is generally quite suspiciously insensitive. Finally - get a damn passport so you can fly in, ya'twit!

    But just so you know - customs people are given A LOT of discretion. You have no inherent right, as an individual, to enter the states - at least no right that you are going to actually enforce. I've been denied entry to the states without proof of anything. They don't need to prove it. Keep it in mind. I do wonder about their right to go through your computer files - that strikes me as wrong. There are many, many reasons that computer files should not be open to that kind of viewing. Try to minimize your luggage. In a practical way, that has been the most helpful thing for me.
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    Report the dude and start flying into Minneapolis.

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    Flying Winnipeg to Fargo would be stupid though(if there is even a flight that does it). Its like a 3 hour drive... 5 hours by bus(well 5 hours for me because of the stupid detaining me BS).

    The guy even said 'you say you make money in Canada yet here you are taking a greyhound'. Im like 'uh I dont drive and I don't want to drive and umm flying wouldn't make sense'

    I am getting a passport because I think it will make life a hell of a lot easier. Even still though to put me through this shit time after time is fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    Report the dude and start flying into Minneapolis.
    I guess that would be easier lol. Now to convince Scotty to pick me up in Minni ahaha..

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    So sorry to hear that, I know they can be dickweeds. I am from the states and used to see a boy from missassagua (sp?) and everytime I was coming back into the states I had the same shit done to me and I am a US citizen. Also, this was in the mid nineties and I still got shit coming into my own country.

    May be you can get off the bus just before the boarder and have your boy come across and pick you up so you are riding across with him, and Mr. Dickweed may not feel so in control with a real man around you.

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    How did he 'find out'???

    You know how many times I've crossed the border to dance...with a bag full of dancer shit...it's really worth it to put on your conservative clothes and librarian glasses, NO makeup, hair up, and play demure and sweet. Why not, makes life easier.

    If they ask, blush and say you're visiting your boyfriend. Then look like you're going to cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver View Post
    How did he 'find out'???

    You know how many times I've crossed the border to dance...with a bag full of dancer shit...it's really worth it to put on your conservative clothes and librarian glasses, NO makeup, hair up, and play demure and sweet. Why not, makes life easier.
    I always cross wearing just a pair of jeans and a hoodie or something, no makeup and hair in a loose braid.

    He found out because my daytimer has all my dancer licenses in the back of it and he decided he needed to go through my daytimer for whatever reason. I hadn't even told him what I do at that point.

    What happened the first time is I was super tired... had worked the night before in tbay, had to be on a 6am flight to Winnipeg so I hadn't slept and was completely out of it. So when he asked me where I was going I kind of stumbled for a second for whatever reason so he pulled me to the back to question me. First thing he does is go for my daytimer then it just went from there.

    Seriously i've crossed the boarder soooooooo many times and have never had an issue. The emerson boarder is just pure hell.

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    I'm sorry to hear it, baby.

    Is there another border you can use? Because, you're probably permanently fucked at this one.

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    it probably doesn't even matter which border she uses at this point, it sounds like her name is now flagged.

    check this link out


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    ^ i don't get it? this concerns me since i'm a border traveler myself... not for dancing reasons though.

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    i think your guy should visit you more often to make it a little easier on ya.

    Good thinking about contacting a lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    ^ i don't get it? this concerns me since i'm a border traveler myself... not for dancing reasons though.
    yeah but you're a us citizen (I think?) This is a case of us border patrol agents being dicks to non us citizens.

    Anyhow, they claim to take this kind of treatment seriously. What you've described is completely undignified and dehumanizing. Of particular interest to you Cally would be articles 1, 2, and 9 in the link above. I'd write a strongly worded letter reporting this behavior. It's out of line and uncalled for and you shouldn't have to be exposed to such dickheadedness.


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    i feel bad for you, even as a us citizen going through canada immigration, i was always treated with respect. always.

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    this is horrible. This man has no reason to harass you. Come on now, we have bigger things to worry about than a sexy chick from Canada coming to get laid.

    If I were you, i'd be contacting a lawyer and writing to someone higher up than him.
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    Jenny is right. Young women travelling alone are terribly suspicious.

    This same thing happened to me when I came home from Europe, although they backed off when my dad (who's a 6'4" mean son a bitch) started to say "what is your problem with my daughter?"/

    But when I came back from Vegas a few weeks ago? I got the "step this way, miss" treatment. Molested, bags torn apart, and they went through every bit of it. Asking me loads of questions and not believing a word of it. Who has American friends? is what they were asking. Drug dealers I guess. They are so cruel about it too...so fucking nasty. When I said I was a student, she demanded my student card and said "this doesn't look very authentic". Oh what the hell? When it was all over, and it took forever after a whole day of flying...I was pissed...she scowled at me and gave me this "I'll catch you next time, bitch" look.

    I started to wonder if there's something suspicious about me on some record...I just don't know. When I went around Europe they were always shouting at me and ransacking my purse too. At least I've always gotten women. I'd rather take a German woman yelling at me than a dude. Sucks, miss cally. It certainly does. I am damn sure never trying to dance down South now.

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