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    Default custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    Keep in mind please that my club does not have a VIP or CR!!

    My regular pays me $300 for an hour and recently I have started just sitting or lying there talking during it coz it's too tiring and boring to dance for the whole hour. On sat night I didn't even end up getting naked and he didn't say anything. But later he gaveme more money and I thought I better dance just in case he felt he got ripped off earlier.

    I have had some customers who have paid me and said they just wanted to chat but do you ladies think it's ok to just take it upon myself to do this?

    I welcome male customers opinions, I just didn't want to put it in CC because of a certain person who goes in there who would turn this into something it wasn't intended to be.
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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    OK, you said we could reply, so here goes. I just hope nobody else gets irritated, 'cause we had all that out a few weeks back and I don't want to start it up again.

    Anyway...

    I can't answer for your regular, of course, but if it had been me and I wanted you to dance or get naked, I would have opened up my mouth and asked you to please do so. And if I didn't ask, it would have been because I was happy with the ways things were.

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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    UtahMike is right. If you don't feel comfortable sitting with the customer fully clothed, then at a point every so often in the conversation (as such) just ask him if he would like for you to dance for him a little now or continue the conversation.

    if he asks for you to dance for a bit, then do so for a couple of songs before asking whether he wants to continue talking or have you continue dancing for a bit longer...

    half hour or longer bookings definately require conversation NOT just dancing this is why i can do them without a problem as i can bs with the best of them (talk about everything and anything yet make it seem like such a really decent indepth conversation lol).



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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahMike View Post
    OK, you said we could reply, so here goes. I just hope nobody else gets irritated, 'cause we had all that out a few weeks back and I don't want to start it up again.
    I hope not too.
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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    Even if he doesnt mind, try to keep things interesting (like you want to even though you dont have to).

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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    Would I, as a customer, pay a dancer $300/hr just to lie there naked? In a word, NO!

    Having said that, I agree with you that 1 hr of nothing but dancing would be boring- there comes a point where 60 minutes is really 5 minutes repeated 12 times over! Furthermore, I very rarely buy more than 1/2 hr VIP room block. Even then, I don't mind occasional break in action- same goes with regular floor dances.

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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    Horses for courses.

    Men will come into a strip venue with a wide range of motivations and expectations.

    One possible motivation for him being comfortable with you not being naked is that he's got OTC ambitions and he's trying the good old "I'll show her that I like her as a person and seeing her naked is not my motivation for coming in" routine.

    Other guys could be a little lonely - imagine a salesman who's always on the road. It's not always easy to strike up a conversation with strangers, but if he comes into a strip venue, he's always going to find a girl who'll chat to him.

    It might also be the need for variety. If he's a regular, he's seen you naked a lot, and conversation might be a pleasant break between dances.

    As GoldCoastGirl says, if you ask him what he wants you won't go far wrong. A customer who's having his expectations met is a satisfied customer.

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    Hey - Ive been talking about how all my customers want to lay on the couch in CR for hours at a time and do nothing. Shit - I dont care... I get paid either way....

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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    Very good points Phil. This guy has been a regular of mine for about 8 months and yes he pushes for OTC. So I try to keep him coming in for as long as I can before the relationship expires.

    The only problem is that I get really cold lying there not moving LOL but it's a small price to pay. Hustling for that extra $300 vs lying there, well easy choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow View Post
    Would I, as a customer, pay a dancer $300/hr just to lie there naked? In a word, NO!

    Having said that, I agree with you that 1 hr of nothing but dancing would be boring- there comes a point where 60 minutes is really 5 minutes repeated 12 times over! Furthermore, I very rarely buy more than 1/2 hr VIP room block. Even then, I don't mind occasional break in action- same goes with regular floor dances.
    A prince like you has to PAY women to get naked? I'd think your life would be one never ending Axe commercial.

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    ^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    This guy has been a regular of mine for about 8 months and yes he pushes for OTC. So I try to keep him coming in for as long as I can before the relationship expires.
    Ah, good old 'next time' syndrome. I've alway thought guys stay regulars because after each visit, they convince themselves it'll be the next time you'll accept their invitation for an OTC meeting.

    At the risk of sounding my favourite mantra, have you read books on body language? There are certain signals we send out when we're attracted to someone (flirtation signals) and if you know what they are you can imitate them.

    "Jaizaine's attracted to me because she's flirting with me"

    Phil.

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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    I do this fairly often myself with dancers I've gotten to know ITC after an extended period of time. I don't mind if they dance for me or not. I don't mind if they strip or not. What I don't do is insist they don't dance or strip for me as I know it makes some dancers uncomfortable.

    However, I would like to mention that I don't like it when another dancer assumes I want nothing but conversation because she heard that's what I want in a dance.

    **tiptoes out of SG**

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    The only problem is that I get really cold lying there not moving LOL but it's a small price to pay.
    Most of the guys who have spent huge amounts of money on me and/or became regulars would be very happy with this. I am def. a conversation girl. I can hold my own in a conversation about just about anything and can talk for hours.

    The regs that come in to see me(and I would guess most girls likke me) view our time together as more like a date and less like a stripper dancing for them. They want that personal touch..they want to "get to know you" ...they want to spend time with YOU...not just be danced on by a stripper.

    And as for getting cold...thats a great excuse to 1) snuggle in to him saying you are cold...which is a great way to get him to extend for more time or 2) get up and start dancing. just tell him you are getting cold so you want to move a bit. I'm sure he wont mind..lol!

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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    ^^^
    that's what I thought that he prob views it by this point as more of a date
    but if thats what keeps him coming in then cool.

    it's weird that he used to come in and insist on constant dances and pay me for each one and now he just goes ahead and pays me for an hour. i dont really know how it happened.
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    Some of the most effortlessly beautiful, kind, intelligent, successful, motivated, driven and ridiculously hilarious women that I have ever met have been dancers. I've met the best friends that I've ever had in this industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    Ah, good old 'next time' syndrome. I've alway thought guys stay regulars because after each visit, they convince themselves it'll be the next time you'll accept their invitation for an OTC meeting.

    At the risk of sounding my favourite mantra, have you read books on body language? There are certain signals we send out when we're attracted to someone (flirtation signals) and if you know what they are you can imitate them.

    "Jaizaine's attracted to me because she's flirting with me"

    Phil.
    no i haven't read anything on body language. can you please give some examples? i prob should try something like that because certain types of custies make me feel uncomfortable and i prob give off that vibe in my body language.
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    You're still a vagina.
    There are many stereotypes about the industry that I work in. Sometimes they can be true but human beings are very diverse creatures and cannot be pigeon-holed into one category.

    Some of the most effortlessly beautiful, kind, intelligent, successful, motivated, driven and ridiculously hilarious women that I have ever met have been dancers. I've met the best friends that I've ever had in this industry.

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    Default Re: custies ok with paying for us to ly there naked?

    I've had guys do this too, and weird thing is, not even regulars. There was a guy just yesterday who paid me $310 and all I did was dance for about5 songs. We got interrupted because I had to go on stage ( I was the only girl working that day !!), but when I went back again with him, I danced for a bit, but when I got into my chair to do splits, he just struck up conversation, and I got distracted so we talked for the remainding time, with me and my legs in the air.
    He thanked me for my company when he had to go and that was it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    no i haven't read anything on body language. can you please give some examples?
    It's thought that we get 60 - 70% of our information on how people are reacting emotionally towards us from body language.

    One very easy thing for you to spot is personal distance. The better a freind someone is, the closer we let them come to us. Typically we let close friends/lovers come inside 6" from us. Casual friends, work colleagues we let come within 6" - 18" of us. Strangers and people we don't like, we like to keep 2 ft away.

    Just keep a check when you're out and about in your real life. You'll find that if people come inside these distances - for example if a casual friend (6" - 18") tries to move closer than 6" - you'll probsbly start to feel uncomfortable.

    What you're probably intrested in are flirtation signals - the signal a woman gives off when she's interested in a man. Two of the obvious ones are slightly extended eye contact (gaze held a few seconds longer than normal) and frequent smiles.

    (How often do we see dancers advised to make eye contact and smile on this forum?)

    Another flirtation signal is sitting close. (This is often used as a test - if the other person lets you stay inside 6", they're interested - otherwise they'll find a way of increasing the distance back to 12" or so). We also tend to lightly touch people we like. A flirting woman will tend to lightly touch a man's forearm or hand to build up that sense of intimacy.

    Other female flirtation gestures?

    * Playing with their hair.
    * Self touching - for example gently stroking their lower thigh.
    * Subtly stroking cylindrical things like the stems of wineglasses.
    * Exposing the inside of their wrists.
    * Crossing and uncrossing their legs.

    Think about all the things mentioned above - you'll probably recognise a lot of them as you look around you.

    Phil.

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    ^^^
    I am VERY GOOD with the eye contact thing. i think it's what causes me to make lots of money off one customer and unfortunately what leads them to think i am genuinely interested in them. that and my face stroking thing while i gaze into their eyes
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    You're still a vagina.
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    ^^^

    The prolonged eye contact will probably help you make money off of all customers - us poor males will interpret it as a personal (rather than a professional) interest in us.

    The stroking of the face causes your customers to visualise themselves doing the same thing - which is one reason your reg keeps spending.

    Phil.

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    ^^
    it's not always strictly professional. there is no harm in enjoying one's work on the odd occasion I know plenty who do.
    Last edited by jaizaine; 10-14-2007 at 08:16 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    when regulars turn cheap, it's time to kill em off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    You're still a vagina.
    There are many stereotypes about the industry that I work in. Sometimes they can be true but human beings are very diverse creatures and cannot be pigeon-holed into one category.

    Some of the most effortlessly beautiful, kind, intelligent, successful, motivated, driven and ridiculously hilarious women that I have ever met have been dancers. I've met the best friends that I've ever had in this industry.

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