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    I'm not positive that this in the right section...

    But I'm just wondering about this. I have in the past trained young horses, for pay sometimes, and I've also gotten commission off horse sales of the ones I've trained/ showed (taking them to competition is huge advertising, and automatically hikes their price way up, especially if we're successful...and I have a flair for getting results at the lower levels). I've always loved doing this, since I love riding and I really enjoy working with the learning-curve horses. They teach me a lot, their progress is inspiring, and it's just fun.

    So now I'm wondering about doing this more? Like as a part time job, per se? It's very convenient hours, especially with dancing on the side. Makes my life enjoyable, productive, and totally on my own terms/ timetable. Which is ideal.

    Now, for that alone, do I need some kind of business license? I don't think so...or is there somewhere I can go look into taking commission jobs, or negotiating contracts with owners...This is just always something I've done with people based on a handshake agreement, usually with folks I've known for a while. Not that it always works out that way...Which I suppose is why I'm trying to figure out how I learn to do it more professionally? Especially if I'm working for strangers.

    Also. I've thought about investment horses of my own before...I think someday I'd like to have a little hobby farm of my own, but in the meantime I know how much money you have to shell out to board a horse. Still, if I did it right, I could definitely make something worthwhile. It IS risky, since horses aren't always reliable to just improve unconditionally. But it's not like I'd be going into it blindly. (Just as an example, sometimes horses are bought for a little more than meat prices, and get sold a year or two later for $30000-50000).

    So I'm just looking for some advice and perspective I suppose...I know my propensity for pie-in-the-sky economics.

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    Default Re: flipping horses

    Rather unfortunately, anybody can call themselves a horse trainer. There's probably some organizations you can get certified with but they're pretty much bogus, like Parelli's program

    Horses are expensive, so it's difficult really to make any sort of profit especially if you're shelling out board. That depends on how much you're paying though. Around here it's difficult to find board for less that $250/mo so while I've thought about doing this too I know I'd be lucky to break even so I'd mostly be doing it for experience since I do aspire to be a horse trainer someday.

    Perhaps it would be best to try to affiliate yourself with a boarding barn and/or apprentice yourself to a trainer to build a clientele?
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    Default Re: flipping horses

    I was thinking about going back to a barn I used to be affiliated at, because I know they'll need someone by at least next spring. It's just, you know, horse people and horse politics! I wouldn't mind being affiliated, but I find being employed by the barn can be trouble (so many of them screw you on the sale commission). But I've just had bad experiences I guess, which is why I've been considering being my own free agent.

    Thanks for the advice and input!

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    If you don't mind working for someone I would do it through different farms. Work for them working on their horses. Get written contracts and don't be afraid to contact lawyers if you get screwed over. Don't let them walk all over you.

    If you want to do it certified I would go through the Equine Canada levels. Only down fall is once you do level 3 you need a horse to do the jumpers with. I know you dressage princesses don't like jumping though lol.

    I would talk to the barn you worked with in the past and do it all via written contracts.

    As for your own... its not profitable until you have your own facility. Doing it via boarding just wont pay off.

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    You know, when I did my level 2 exam, I got 99%, and the tester told me "I would have given you your level 3 today if you tested for it." Like, goddamn. I thought "why won't you then?". Heh. I have done lots of jumping as a teenager, and also on the university team I did some. Not everyone seems to care about the levels, but you're right, it's something ostensibly 'official' that I can certify myself with. I'll look into that...

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    I think for level 4 and coaching one you need to do a 4 foot course... and you need the same horse for your flat and over fences. Though again I also heard they changed all the testing requirements so who knows...

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