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    http://www.wisn.com/news/14223467/detail.html

    You know, the most disgusting part, is where the dude says "I don't do diapers"

    Really, with all the options to get out of a pregnancy possible, this just speaks to complete laziness and/or fear of doing the work necessary to get out of being a parent. It just doesn't make sense to me.

    "I don't do diapers" so she "Changes the child once a day"... you think, maybe you're just not going to enjoy parenthood?

    Oh well, currently I'm biased.

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    thats terrible. I'm sorry, but have an abortion! Or give the baby to somebody that wants it!! I think its better to not bring a chuld into the world than to bring a child into a home were its not wanted and will be neglected.


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    Thats tottaly sick i hope they get put away for life and i hope she got her tubes tied and he gets visectomy I wish in these circumstances they court order sterlization.

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    Those two look like a couple of winners, don't they.

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    Thats terrible - with all the people that want children and would give babies a good home, they can't have them. Then two social rejects that are a total waste of human skin have a child.

    Thats why people like Angelina Jolie tick me off so badly. Millions of American kids need good homes and can't be placed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow2 View Post
    Thats why people like Angelina Jolie tick me off so badly. Millions of American kids need good homes and can't be placed.
    Do you know how difficult it is to adopt here? Why do you think so many couples have baby girls from China?

    And Angelina started adopting because she is a goodwill ambassador who visited many places and happened to fall in love with her first child while she was visiting (crap, can't think of it) wherever Maddox was born. Don't fault Angelina Jolie for all of the American orphans, at least she's doing something to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    while she was visiting (crap, can't think of it) wherever Maddox was born.
    Cambodia

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    Regarding the comment about Angelina: I don't understand the tribalistic thinking that leads people to root for babies in Philadelphia over babies in Phnom Penh.

    Is a brown baby not as worth saving as a cute little white American baby? Or is the idea that we should help our own and let people in incredibly impoverished nations like Cambodia take care of theirs? Cambodia is one of the poorest countries on the world. The nation is still living under the shadow of a dictator whose genocide comes second only to Adolph Hitler. their infrastructre is teriibly underdeveloped. Two-thirds of citizens have no access to clean drinking water.

    I don't imagine there are enough middle class couples sitting around over lattes pondering whether to go with in-vitro or adoption to give homes to all the orphaned children.

    Sorry, that turned into a rant, but it's a real burr in my saddle. American children are not more worthy of beautiful life than those who happened to be born in other countries.

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    It's not about the color of the childs skin, it's about being concerned about taking care of home business before anything else and yes I do know how difficult it is to adopt here as I was adopted myself.

    For you to assume that Im actually concerned with a innocent childs skin color is insulting. I have a view, I posted it. You disagree. Thats fine.

    Plus an individual like Miss Jolie could of adopted a black child out of Atlanta with no problems whatsoever. It's difficult for everyday individuals to adopt because of Gabriel's parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow2 View Post
    It's not about the color of the childs skin, it's about being concerned about taking care of home business before anything else and yes I do know how difficult it is to adopt here as I was adopted myself.

    For you to assume that Im actually concerned with a innocent childs skin color is insulting. I have a view, I posted it. You disagree. Thats fine.
    I didn't assume it. Please reread my post. I asked. I wanted to understand the viewpoint. I didn't accuse you of anything. I'm sorry. Please accept this pickle:

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    Hey, can I add a cookie to that? Where's Jade when you need her!

    My viewpoint is simply this, it is not America's or Americans jobs to take care of the rest of the world. Innocent children should not be caught up in politics, sadly they are. Every day.

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    it's actually really easy to adopt american children (for middle-class white couples, there is a lot of racism in the adoption industry when a middle-class black couple or person wants to adopt) if they are any (or any combination) of the following:

    --not white

    --not infants under a year of age

    --disabled

    there are often financial incentives provided and the process is sped up. it is cheaper to go american, but then you'd get a kid who wasn't from an 'exotic' country.

    sigh.

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    Plus it can't be a same sex marriage and so forth - Oh believe me I know all about it. You'd think these people would want ANY child to have a happy, well adjusted, loving home.

    Pfft.

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    To go back to the father's attitude, as discussed in the OP: You know, a great paradox just occurred to me. It's a stereotypically macho* thing to turn a nose up at diapers, right? Isn't it also a stereotypically macho thing to find great hilarity in fart jokes, all things involving shit, and just general "toilet humor"?

    How is that possible? The same cro magnons who think blasting their frat bros in the face with totally rank gas is the height of wit . . . later run away screaming "Ewww! Icky!" from an innocent little diaper?!?

    I. Don't. Get. It.


    *Believe me, I know there are plenty of great dads out there that don't have this attitude at all. I'm totally not talking about you guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap View Post
    Those two look like a couple of winners, don't they.
    "...The couple recently got jobs at Pizza Hut, police said Anderson told them, and the couple used the money for drinking parties. Police said Anderson told them that she often left Gabriel strapped in his stroller when the couple went out or to work, and that she changed Gabriel's diaper once per day."

    So, Rachel & Mitchie responsibly got jobs so that they could toss back some shots & pitchers with their buddies. They also budgeted wisely enough to set aside funds for that single daily diaper.

    Is there a PWT gas station or liquor store out there that sells single baby diapers like "loosie" cigarettes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Budai View Post
    "...The couple recently got jobs at Pizza Hut, police said Anderson told them, and the couple used the money for drinking parties. Police said Anderson told them that she often left Gabriel strapped in his stroller when the couple went out or to work, and that she changed Gabriel's diaper once per day."
    Excuse me. I'm not a parent YET, but . . . I'm pretty goddamn sure that a healthy baby is gong to soil WAY more than one diaper a day. Parents out there, am I right? More like anywhere from 6-10, right? Depending on diet?

    Either that kid is malnourished on top of everything else, or they're letting him sit in his own waste much, much longer than is healthy or kind.
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    Rachel Anderson and her live-in boyfriend, Mitch Laputka, were ordered to stand trial Thursday on charges they neglected baby Gabriel so badly that his body was covered with diaper rash, his body temperature was 12 degrees below normal and he stopped breathing, requiring 21 minutes of CPR to revive him. Police said the couple admitted to leaving the boy home alone because they wanted to party.
    Aha. Now that I've read the whole original article, no wonder. Poor Gabriel.
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    How much do you want to bet that after about six weeks of having the baby in a foster home, and after the parents sit through some parenting classes, they get the baby back?

    That's what would happen here. Maybe Wisconsin has more concern for a baby's welfare than the parents' rights to keep their family together. I wouldn't countonit.
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    I don't know, I think Angelina does a great thing in adopting foreign children.

    In America at least, if a child is not adopted, it will receive SOME care. I know how flawed, and sometimes horrible, foster care can be, but in MOST cases, the child at least has a place to sleep and food to eat, and a decent life expectancy.

    In places in Africa, a child who is not removed from the situation will very likely die, or be horrifically malnourished, or be completely homeless. Because of poor nutrition, no medical care whatsoever, they sometimes don't even make it to adulthood.

    And at least in this country, a very young child, under a year old, has a good chance of finding a home. In Africa, not so much.

    think all children, regardless of their national heritage, deserve a chance. It's not their fault they were born in Africa and not America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow2 View Post
    Plus it can't be a same sex marriage and so forth - Oh believe me I know all about it. You'd think these people would want ANY child to have a happy, well adjusted, loving home.

    Pfft.
    I wonder if that's the same in states that honor same-sex marriages?
    Either way, it's deplorable, What will the world do when some kid of the 2010's grows up and says he was "Experimenting" with heterosexual sex as a divergence from his lifelong pursuit of same-sex relationships?

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    How is that possible? The same cro magnons who think blasting their frat bros in the face with totally rank gas is the height of wit . . . later run away screaming "Ewww! Icky!" from an innocent little diaper?!?

    I. Don't. Get. It.
    Despite the overwhelming arousal and swelling parts of me do as the result of imaging one, such as yourself, whispering such sensual phrases into my ear while you snail trail my lucky slacks I have to say:

    It must suck to think that the entire world is watching and judging your every move.

    What I really don't get, is that these kids, get support from family and friends when the woman snaps and gets angry at their lack of involvement, leading to many support groups that allow these guys to feel that all they really need to do, is donate their dna and stay with her....and nothing else.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite View Post
    Excuse me. I'm not a parent YET, but . . . I'm pretty goddamn sure that a healthy baby is gong to soil WAY more than one diaper a day. Parents out there, am I right? More like anywhere from 6-10, right? Depending on diet?
    Well that depends on how much protein the baby gets in utero

    The fact is, He doesn't DO diapers, and she probably changed based on tolerance of the smell v/ yelling.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahMike View Post
    How much do you want to bet that after about six weeks of having the baby in a foster home, and after the parents sit through some parenting classes, they get the baby back?

    That's what would happen here. Maybe Wisconsin has more concern for a baby's welfare than the parents' rights to keep their family together. I wouldn't countonit.
    What really is overwhelming in this article, is the undeniable feeling that these two parents don't seem like they could care less one way or another. Whatever gets them back to their binge drinking fastest with the least amount of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow2 View Post
    l like Miss Jolie could of adopted a black child out of Atlanta with no problems whatsoever. It's difficult for everyday individuals to adopt because of Gabriel's parents.
    Valid point

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahMike View Post
    How much do you want to bet that after about six weeks of having the baby in a foster home, and after the parents sit through some parenting classes, they get the baby back?

    That's what would happen here. Maybe Wisconsin has more concern for a baby's welfare than the parents' rights to keep their family together. I wouldn't countonit.

    I bet they do too. THAT pisses me off. They should never be allowed to see that poor kid!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kandie_kitten View Post
    I don't know, I think Angelina does a great thing in adopting foreign children.

    In America at least, if a child is not adopted, it will receive SOME care. I know how flawed, and sometimes horrible, foster care can be, but in MOST cases, the child at least has a place to sleep and food to eat, and a decent life expectancy.

    In places in Africa, a child who is not removed from the situation will very likely die, or be horrifically malnourished, or be completely homeless. Because of poor nutrition, no medical care whatsoever, they sometimes don't even make it to adulthood.

    And at least in this country, a very young child, under a year old, has a good chance of finding a home. In Africa, not so much.

    think all children, regardless of their national heritage, deserve a chance. It's not their fault they were born in Africa and not America.
    I recieved my heart murmur in foster care. My loving, caring foster parents let me ( a small child at the time ) go for several months with a low grade fever - which damaged my heart beyond repair. My situation is not a random event. It happens - as a lot of so called foster parents only take in orphan children for the money they bring with them. I'm lucky I survived.. Very, very lucky.

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    How do you plead 'not guilty' to neglect when your kid has diaper rash from head to toe? That's what i don't get.

    A better question is "How did the Judge keep a straight face when they did so?"

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