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    I have had a lot of time to think here lately, obviously. And my grandmother was talking to me about how during her time that marijuana was legal and alcohol was not. Then she was telling me about how everyone would sit on their porch and wait for the truck to come by that delivered Coca-Cola, lol.

    Quite honestly, I agree with legalizing marijuana and outlawing alcohol. I'd rather be around a room full of potheads as opposed to a room full of drunks. Marijuana isn't as addictive either.

    What are some other thoughts on this?

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    I don't think alcohol should be illegal, but I think marijuana should be legal. Alochols legal, but pot isn't....how many people die of marijuana poisening? 0. I thniks its ridiculous that alcohol is legal, while pot isn't. Stoned people get lazy and eat more. They don't get violent, they don't passout and choke on their own vomit, they don't have sex with somebody and not remember it the next morning...it just doesn't make sense to me.


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    Well i dont think alcohol should be illegal. My aunt is in a very, very abusive marriage. He is too old and sick to do any beatings anymore but what that cunt (sorry only appropriate word for him) used to do to her when he was younger was sadistic and vicious. She said that when he drank she would always cop it. But when he was high on weed he left her alone.

    I think alcohol definately leads to more violence.

    I dont really see any harm in marjuana being legal.
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    I'd rather be in a room filled with marijuana smoke than cigarrette smoke ANY day.

    Maybe less people would get out of control hurling drunk if marijuana were legal.

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    Ever read about prohibition and how well that went over? Sky high rates of alcohol abuse and crime. Making booze illegal will not help anything, but I agree with legalizing marijuana.

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    the government doesn't wanna legalize marijuana because it would put the pharmaceutical company our of business. marijuana is medicinal; gives appetite, calms the nerves, kills stress, etc... do you know how much the government would be losing if they legalize weed? ALOT...they are alright with cigerettes and alcohol which are more harmful and destructive, yet they make marijuana seem like the biggest malice.
    look at all these prescription medications. its not like they don't have cures for most of these diseases. medicine and technology has come a very long way in advancement... the pharmaceutical company is one of the government's biggest revenue sources, and they have to make their money. so they give people medications that are addictive, and you find yourself having to refill just to get the disease treated instead of the cured, and then coupled with side-effects.

    I will choose marijuana over any drug or substance anyday. its an herb, a very powerful one that is, and its God-made. its existence and usage dates as far back in centuries by different ethnic groups.
    All i have to say is, if its man-made, its not good for you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadySoft View Post
    the government doesn't wanna legalize marijuana because it would put the pharmaceutical company our of business. do you know how much the government would be losing if they legalize weed? ALOT...they are alright with cigerettes and alcohol which are more harmful and destructive, yet they make marijuana seem like the biggest malice.
    look at all these prescription medications. its not like they don't have cures for most of these diseases. medicine and technology has come a very long way in advancement... the pharmaceutical company is one of the government's biggest revenue sources, and they have to make their money. so they give people medications which that are addictive, and you find yourself having to refill just to get the disease treated instead of the cure, and then coupled with side-effects.

    I will choose marijuana over any drug or substance anyday. its an herb, a very powerful one that is, and its God-made. its being in existence and usage by different ethnic groups for years.
    All i have to say is, if its man-made, its not good for you...
    I heard it's been used to alleviate pain. Does it cure anything?

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    I would rather be in a room of pot heads then drunk assholes any day.

    That is all.

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    Ladysoft has a good point on the pharmaceutical companies not wanting to legalize pot, it's all about the taxes and money, otherwise I see no reason why pot isn't legal and alcohol is. I don't think they should make alcohol illegal, and they're not anyways cause have you ever seen how much they tax it, it's crazy so no, I don't see that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmeerah View Post
    I heard it's been used to alleviate pain. Does it cure anything?
    its used for chronic pain like arthritis. i wouldn't say it cures anything, but it eliminates stress, which is almost #1 reason to most health probelms. like AIDS. AIDS doesn't kill you. Its the stress that causes the suppression of your immune system, which makes one prone to diseases like pneumonia, fever, etc, that eventually kills the person. the virus only weakens your immune system and enabling its susceptibility to other diseases. thats why people can live with it for years because they build immunity to the virus. marijuana plays a role here because it gives you appetite, and makes you unstress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadySoft View Post
    the government doesn't wanna legalize marijuana because it would put the pharmaceutical company our of business. marijuana is medicinal; gives appetite, calms the nerves, kills stress, etc... do you know how much the government would be losing if they legalize weed? ALOT...they are alright with cigerettes and alcohol which are more harmful and destructive, yet they make marijuana seem like the biggest malice.
    look at all these prescription medications. its not like they don't have cures for most of these diseases. medicine and technology has come a very long way in advancement... the pharmaceutical company is one of the government's biggest revenue sources, and they have to make their money. so they give people medications that are addictive, and you find yourself having to refill just to get the disease treated instead of the cured, and then coupled with side-effects.

    I will choose marijuana over any drug or substance anyday. its an herb, a very powerful one that is, and its God-made. its existence and usage dates as far back in centuries by different ethnic groups.
    All i have to say is, if its man-made, its not good for you...
    I do hope you're not generalizing about ALL pharmaceuticals. Marijuana might help with stress and pain relief, but it won't help with, say, the swelling caused by rheumetoid arthritis the way Embrel will.

    There are scores of other drugs out there that HELP people. My fiance and daughter are so afflicted by allergies that they can't breathe at certain times of the year. Marijuana won't help that, but Zyrtec will.

    How about asthma sufferers as well?

    When you start blaming pharma companies, try to take in the big picture and not use it as an argument to make something that can be dangerous legal. Yes, alcohol is evil but that doesn't mean that marijuana can't be either.

    And yes, I know people who get stoned out of their minds and can't function just like alcoholics. Personally, neither should be legal.

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    I dont smoke, but I think it should be legal. As long as alcohol is...there doesnt seem to be much of a differance as far as impairment goes. ANd marijuana doesnt seem to lead to as much violent behavior as alcohol.

    And I agree with you Dylan about pharmaceuticals. You cant knock them all. I may not be alive if it werent for the drugs I take every day(and will take for the rest of my life). And even if it never got life threatening..I wouldnt be able to function from the pain. And pot does nothing for me except make me sick to my stomach. So pot isnt going to cure me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanAngel View Post
    I do hope you're not generalizing about ALL pharmaceuticals. Marijuana might help with stress and pain relief, but it won't help with, say, the swelling caused by rheumetoid arthritis the way Embrel will.

    There are scores of other drugs out there that HELP people. My fiance and daughter are so afflicted by allergies that they can't breathe at certain times of the year. Marijuana won't help that, but Zyrtec will.

    How about asthma sufferers as well?

    When you start blaming pharma companies, try to take in the big picture and not use it as an argument to make something that can be dangerous legal. Yes, alcohol is evil but that doesn't mean that marijuana can't be either.

    And yes, I know people who get stoned out of their minds and can't function just like alcoholics. Personally, neither should be legal.
    I believe it should only be legalized for medicinal purposes. People are just going to abuse it if it was legalized....i know friends that told me they use it for arthritis. It doesn't cure it, but it lessens the pain. Its more typical for chronic pain, and helps with asthma too.
    My friend who's very traditional, thats what he uses. He has it soaked in a bottle of alcohol for years and whenever he gets hit with muscle or bone pain, he rubs it and it goes away. He never goes to the hospital. But of course its not for everyone and everything.

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    I think they should both be legal. Of course, as w/ alcohol people can act stupid on it. Although I must say that I'm much more likely to black out from that than alcohol. Okay, I admit it, it was both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadySoft View Post
    I believe it should only be legalized for medicinal purposes. People are just going to abuse it if it was legalized....i know friends that told me they use it for arthritis. It doesn't cure it, but it lessens the pain. Its more typical for chronic pain, and helps with asthma too.
    My friend who's very traditional, thats what he uses. He has it soaked in a bottle of alcohol for years and whenever he gets hit with muscle or bone pain, he rubs it and it goes away. He never goes to the hospital. But of course its not for everyone and everything.
    Excuse me, but breathing in ANY kind of smoke is not good for asthma sufferers.

    But back to the subject; I agree with you about legalizing it for medicinal purposes, especially for chemo and glaucoma patients. But, with that, you still have governmental control.

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    Seeing young children able to function, families made whole again, and tons of other scenarios makes me believe that how I'm earning my living is just fine.

    Not to mention the fact that we advertise birth control...and most of us don't want to go without that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanAngel View Post
    Excuse me, but breathing in ANY kind of smoke is not good for asthma sufferers.
    how would you know that? i know people that smoke it and they said it helps with their asthma. ask the asthma sufferers that use it, and then get back at me on that....the capabilities and power of the drug are uncertain because the governnemnt isn't making too much effort to fund and help support more research on the drug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadySoft View Post
    its used for chronic pain like arthritis. i wouldn't say it cures anything, but it eliminates stress, which is almost #1 reason to most health probelms. like AIDS. AIDS doesn't kill you. Its the stress that causes the suppression of your immune system, which makes one prone to diseases like pneumonia, fever, etc, that eventually kills the person. the virus only weakens your immune system and enabling its susceptibility to other diseases. thats why people can live with it for years because they build immunity to the virus. marijuana plays a role here because it gives you appetite, and makes you unstress.
    Eeek you're quite mistaken if I'm understanding you correctly.

    HIV/AIDS has nothing to do with stress. The virus attacks the immune system until a person is super-susceptible to every ill there is.

    "Being HIV-positive, or having HIV disease, is not the same as having AIDS. Many people are HIV-positive but don't get sick for many years. As HIV disease continues, it slowly wears down the immune system. Viruses, parasites, fungi and bacteria that usually don't cause any problems can make you very sick if your immune system is damaged. These are called "opportunistic infections.""





    Anyway, the point is the same.... mary jane, especially in moderation, is a blessing!!

    Smoking more than 3 times a week can indeed cause grogginess and short-term memory loss, but that's over a very long period of time and nothing that would harm you severely.

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    My thoughts on the subject, heh,...

    Believe it or not, weed is not for everyone. I don't partake because of my schizoid-type brain, but I approve of toking in general.

    Not ALL weed dealers move on up to dealing harder drugs... A guy back home said he noticed the types who were looking for coke scared him way more than potheads did, so he stuck to weed. (He's paying his way through school by slinging weed, BTW..no joke.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine View Post
    My thoughts on the subject, heh,...

    Believe it or not, weed is not for everyone. I don't partake because of my schizoid-type brain, but I approve of toking in general.
    Aww, damn. You're right.

    I probably shouldn't be smoking ever because I have mental illness in my immediate family, but I'm young and invincible ( ), right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadySoft View Post
    All i have to say is, if its man-made, its not good for you...
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    And it doesn't "cure" stress. As a matter of fact, it adds stress to me, because it makes me paranoid and uncomfortable.

    Now, I like weed just fine (for others) but its no panacea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten View Post
    I probably shouldn't be smoking ever because I have mental illness in my immediate family, but I'm young and invincible ( ), right?

    It's a subjective choice. I know people who are "functional" potheads, and then there's me, who turns into a non-functional paranoiac after a bowl. I guess it's like "Native Americans and hard liquor"- a bad combo.

    A recent study claimed that THC erodes the part of the brain responsible for controlling schizophrenic behavior, but much is debateable, including the fact that other, harder drugs can cause the same damage much faster (methamphetamines, cocaine, LSD.)

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    It would be interesting if the government allowed it to be legal for one week each year.

    It's not gonna happen and there are probably loads of reasons why this wouldn't work that I haven't thought of but - i still think it would be neato.

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    Legalize it and tax it. That way the money's going to government and stores that sell it rather than those that sell it illegally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Like antibiotics? Buildings? Bicycles?

    Welcome back sophie.

    And it doesn't "cure" stress. As a matter of fact, it adds stress to me, because it makes me paranoid and uncomfortable.

    Now, I like weed just fine (for others) but its no panacea.
    No, like drugs...

    I never said it was the cure to stress. I said it helps relieve stress...Who is this Sophie? I'm not Sophie. I'm LadySoft, original...lol I don't know why people keep calling me Sophie...

    Weed can be used in different ways. And don't forget i mentioned its not for everyone, but for the few that it satisfes, it can be used in different ways; to unstress, to meditate, to be more creative, etc....i never said it was a panacea. it can't be a panacea if its not for everyone. depending on how you perceive it or not, it helps with relieving stress, reducing certain pains, claming the nerves etc.

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