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Joined: Dec 2014
Age: 37
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Reviews: 5
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Review
| Date at Club: 07/01/2017 |
Customers per Dancer: No Comment |
Management: Could Improve |
Overall Rating:  |
Mileage Expected: Serious Mileage |
Booking Delay: Several Days |
| Dancer Quality: 7-8 |
Customers: Mixed |
| Fees: Average |
Dances per Customer: 0-1 |
Selling dances: Easy |
| Hiring Tips: Have lots of plastic surgery; plastic is fantastic here/glam-look; be in shape |
Additional Information
I don't really know what to make of this club. A lot of negative is said on here and I'm not sure if it is true or not. Tuscl reviews do not correspond with what is said here, but I would not doubt that the club has a solid team in place to manage their reviews and their image.
This brings me to the good bit about the club. It seems to do A TON of promotion, which brings a lot of ppl into the club. So even if they are not spending huge sums of money, they are buying a dance here or there and spending money on booze. The club also has special features such as porn stars or dj or themed days (e. g. Party Night on Sunday, for example) to bring a crowd. Ultimately, this helps the dancers.
The fees can be low. It is less if you come in early. Fees also decrease if you do promotion, if you sell expensive alcohol, if you refer guests via guest cards provided by the club, etc.
Staff is professional. House moms can be a bit stand-offish but that's mostly bc the club is very busy, corporate and lots of commotion always going on. I don't agree with the other posters that they mess up house fee reports. I've never been asked to pay any additional house fees I did not owe. But then again, I was vigilant about them inputting my pay into the system. This place gets very hectic and sometimes, the house moms need to be reminded to do things twice. They are humans.
Some of the bouncers and hosts even try to help me out by pointing me to the tables that may want dances. One of the hosts approached me my first day and invited me to do promotion for the club. That didn't materialize, but nonetheless, still a nice gesture.
At first, money has been very good for me. Most of the vip rooms I've sold, the customer suggested it first, not I. However, the club does stick you in the rooms via the hosts your first few days/weeks there, so that helps a lot.
Unlike most dancers, I actually like the fact that the club issues checks on the funny money turned in. In the past two months I've worked, I've used all my funny money to pay house fees and not once turned it in for a check (yet). When you do turn your money in for a check, the house takes 5% as a processing fee, rather than the 10% that is average in most NYC clubs. You also get a nice neat little print out of ALL the tips and house fees paid in one piece of paper, rather than multiple receipts for different things as is the case with other clubs around the city.
As far as the negatives, I think most of this board touched on all of them as much as I can. Maybe it's bc the club is corporate, maybe bc it's a dressed-up [fill in the blank with a word of your own choosing], but the sense is that no one here cares about you. I've danced all over LA, Vegas, a few places in SF, NOLA, NJ and a few other joints in NYC, and I've never seen girls treated as badly by the staff/management. Here, I've seen a couple of dancers break down and cry in the dressing room bc they were put in a vip room with a guy who was much too drunk and therefore, unsafe; bc the staff had screamed at them in front of everyone in the dressing room for losing a sale; bc the customer refused to pay up $40; bc the customer pulled down a dancer's underwear in the common area, with her being the one reprimanded in front of everyone for slapping him; etc etc. I've never ever in my life seen such drama. Someone supposedly had thousands of dollars stolen from their locker my second day of working at the joint, and the staff held all the girls after closing to search their bags. My third month of working there, we had "surprise" bag searches by the bouncers upon leaving. Good thing I didn't steal anything, so am pretty complicit in having my bags searched. But still, this sort of policy implemented by management sends out a very clear message to everyone that the working environment is not safe, that your own co-workers are not to be trusted, and thereby, promoting a hostile work place. Upon hiring, management makes a big deal about how security runs a tight ship on the premises, but from what I've seen security is strict in controlling their dancers like cattle, not the clientele.
We are not allowed to have our phones on the floor. No gum. Same rules don't apply to customers. There is a weekly schedule, but it is supposedly not mandatory. They've been pretty lax with me about the schedule, and I've been coming in only about 1-2x/week.
The customers take photos and videos on a regular basis. The bouncers and dj make a show of policing the practice but if they actually cared, the customers would not be allowed to use their phones on the floor in the first place, like in most upscale clubs.
I've seen coke used out right in the open. There are vip spots customers can purchase on the floor where they can draw the curtains for additional privacy. These spaces can be used for dances or whatever. Once again, maybe this is how things are done in nyc, but I've never seen such blatant drug use out in the open and I've danced ALL OVER.
Rooms cost 630-800/half hour up to 1100-1600/full hour, with the dancer's cut being 280/half hour to 480/half hour. You're expected to tip, 20%. I think I might have said something about this tipping policy to "a friend" at work who was being extra friendly with me for whatever reason, and after that, I wasn't pressured as much to tip the hosts.
Given the high cost of the rooms, the customers do in fact seem to expect a certain caliber of service. Add alcohol to the mix and there is a potential for a lot of bit of coercion and non-consent. It's a constant battle getting them to even keep their pants on, and fingers away from my vagina, while in the rooms. I don't think I've been pressured for sexual favors ANYWHERE in NYC as much as here and I've worked at a few places around the country which have a, ahem, "a reputation" for being whore houses, not rape houses. It makes me sad that the management actually works with the local pd to turn you in to the police after making SO. MUCH. MONEY. off of you, just to deflect any blame of themselves. With that said, it makes sense to hustle the customers for dances on the floor and make my $200/half hour for my time that way without all the bs.
Since it's a high-end joint, a lot of high-end customers. I think the night club environment of the club scares away all the rich grandpas (at least that's the case on the weekends) but plenty of alpha, under 40 yuppies and trust-fund-babies who can be very generous. However, it doesn't seem to be as exclusive as it can be. It seems to bring in pretty much anyone to make alcohol sales. So I'd say the client-base is mixed. Some guys are very nice. Some guys not so much so. A lot of customers get very nasty without any sort of repercussion from management. I've heard girls complain about "getting slapped around". Still again, no repercussion from security-that is, unless it's the dancer slapping the customer for sexual assault.
I've had two of the make-up people make very rude remarks towards me regarding my looks. One suggested I get some botox and lip injections. On another day, she laughed at how I did my eye liner and told me it looked bad. Another commented on how dry and pasty my skin looked. If I was truly ugly, I probably would not make any money at this club, given the high level of competition here with the number of girls working. So I'm not sure what prompted these comments. I don't look like a stripper, but I don't think I'm ugly.
Nights can be late, which sucks. But this is nyc and there is no day shift. I've been told that all the money to be made is to be made early here 6pm-2am but since I worked on the weekends, the weekends tend to be late which sucks unless you are disciplined enough to ensure that it doesn't.
I auditioned three years ago, twice, in November-December and did not get hired. I auditioned this time around and got hired but am relegated to what is considered the worse shifts or the "starter". The money has been consistent for me at first but has tapered off as we've moved into September and October. A lot of girls talk about huge money being possible at this club, so perhaps this is the case but it's definitely a hit-or-miss scenario much like anywhere in this industry nowadays with above-average-earning potential if you're hot.
If you'd like to try this club, make sure you're super hot and plastic-y. Make sure you are ok with working in a high-core, party-vibe, over-stimulating environment, as it can drain you very quickly if you are prone to that. Alos, read the reviews by the other dancers. They might not be as thorough as this but in my opinion, make some valid points which is why I'm going to look for another club with equally good earning potential, but with a more convenient work schedule for me and a greater vested interest in their dancers.
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